BlockVC首席运营官李明轩对话Skrumble Network联合创始人Eric Li

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5月30日晚19点,明说块问第一期成功开讲!明说块问由BlockVC主办,首席运营官李明轩担任主理人,每月两次对话区块链行业大佬。 第一期成功邀请到了Skrumble Network联合创始人Eric Lifson,对话全程采用全英直播的形式,并伴有中文翻译。现场氛围热烈,可谓是

5月30日晚19点,⎡明说块问⎦第一期成功开讲!⎡明说块问⎦由BlockVC主办,首席运营官李明轩担任主理人,每月两次对话区块链行业大佬。

第一期成功邀请到了Skrumble Network联合创始人Eric Lifson,对话全程采用全英直播的形式,并伴有中文翻译。现场氛围热烈,可谓是分分钟刷屏的节奏。

以下为访谈实录:

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Alan:

Good evening, it’s very honorable today for me to catch up with Eric, co-founder of Skrumble Network (SKM), one of our main investment project. To show our honor, today we gonna to use English through all the interview with our colleague’s help about translations.

First, please let me introduce BlockVC. BlockVC is a leading blockchain investment and advisory firm. Our ecosystem investment strategy is guided by three themes: public blockchain, application protocols and financial services. We have world-class capabilities with a comprehensive range of services across geographies and investment opportunities cross through Singapore, US and China.

So, it’s very honorable to invite our friend for the talk today. Ming Talk will become our ID event online as a talkshow per month to make our project more touchable in China area, broadcast their names and increase brand efficiency. From now on, we gonna to invite lots of top leaders in blockchain area globally.

OK , Let’s welcome Eric.

译:晚上好,很荣幸能和Skrumble Network ( SKM ) 联合创始人对话。Skrumble Network (SKM) 是我们主要投资的项目之一,为表荣幸,我将在同事的协助翻译下使用英语和Eric进行访谈。

首先,请允许我介绍一下BlockVC。BlockVC是一家全球领先的区块链风险投资和咨询研究机构。我们有三条主题生态投资策略:分别是基础公链,应用协议和金融服务。我们拥有世界一流的综合服务能力,为新加坡,美国和中国的各个地区提供跨地域的投资机会。

今天很荣幸能够请到我们的朋友Eric做客“明说块问”。“明说块问”将作为一个月度访谈节目成为我们的线上标志性事件,让BlockVC在全中国更广泛的传递其品牌效应。从现在开始,我们将采访全球区块链领域的众多顶级人物。

现在,让我们掌声欢迎Eric。

Eric:

谢谢你们,大家好,我的名字是Eric。

Hello everyone, my name is Eric and I am co-founder of Skrumble Network. Thank you guys so much for having me here, and you know we wanna really to thank BlockVC, without them we won’t be able to be where we at right now.

译:谢谢你们,大家好!我是Eric,Skrumble Network的联合创始人。非常感谢伙伴们提供的采访机会!同时也想对Block VC给予我们提供的极大支持和帮助表示感谢!

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Alan:

OK, so let’s start the talk show.

With recent massive data crises, the need for secure data that is owned by users has never been stronger. Facebook recently has had 86 million accounts compromised, over 70 million Telegram accounts have had data leaked, and WhatsApp was hacked in January.

So, for the start question, I have to to ask Eric, my brother, as we know the key word of SKM is about solving the Data Crisis , so how does it work by using Blockchain technology?

译:好的,我们现在开始吧。

最近数据泄漏危机事件频繁,大众对数据安全的需求变得更加强烈了。近期Facebook被曝出有八亿六千万个账户存在安全问题,超过7亿个电报账户有数据泄漏的问题出现,并且WhatsApp也在今年一月份遭受了黑客攻击。

作为开始的第一个问题,我想问我的朋友Eric,如我们所知道的那样,SKM的关键词是解决数据危机。因此,SKM是如何使用区块链技术来解决这个问题的?

Eric:

Ok, thank you Alan and Gloria! So let me answer that great question. As you know, blockchain is really quite the future of the world. According to the Deloitte, over 10% of the global GDP will be on blockchain by 2027. So blockchain is the new decentralized paradigm and is really taking over the world.

The problem is, if you look at current communication options, you look at different Apps that people are using, they are not built for the new decentralized world. In fact, they are all centralized. You don’t own your data.

In such a important time where billions of dollars at stake in this new decentralized world with cryptocurrency and secure data storage, there needs to be a better solution. We look at the over 5 trillion dollar communication market, really start to think about how could we make this better. So we started Skrumble Network. Skrumble Network is really the first truly decentralized communication ecosystem.

That’s full spectrum. What that means is that we have 3 core components to our project.The first component is our own communication centric blockchain. We believe that the next major phase of blockchain is not a one size that fits all situation, which means it should be vertical focused. Whether you are talking about communication or video games, whatever it should be really driven towards certain use case.

If I means send you some ETH. I’m gonna send you million bucks right now. It’s gonna take me 30 seconds to 1 minute to transfer. That’s ok. It’s not a big deal, you can wait. But if I wanna talk to you right now. We’d better connect within about 10 seconds.

So that kind of use cases are very important. So we also need to make sure it’s very secure and very easy to use. So that’s the first component which is the secure blockchain and all the authentication is done on the blockchain. And I am going to introduce some of the technical details in a minute.

The next component is our dapp, decentralized application. What that means? It’s kind of WeChat on the Blockchain. In that, you get all those communication tools you need and you are used to, and brought into decentralized world. So you will have full voice up to 50 people. Video, voice, chat, file sharing, messaging, we are adding in app cryptocurrency payments with multiple wallets. We are doing mini smart contracts. And guess what!

Skrumble Network is backed by a very strong company in Canada, called Skrumble. Skrumble owns 30 global pattens and one of those pattens for example is being licensed to Skrumble Foundation. Because the data is stored across the community and you actually own your own data.

And the third component of the project is actually a communication layer that links other project and other ecosystem and gives them community. So basically we bring communication that’s secure and simple to the blockchain world.

The way that we do it include 3 core components.

We have authentication and identification management on the blockchain. What that means? For example, how do you usually sign up for an App? Well, you have to give your phone number, your email address. For us what we do is that we use your public key and it work with bunch of different people. You want to have conversation with 3 friends, it creates a secret key that only you and them have access to. And there is no centralized server so you actually own your data. Then it goes into a true secure socket layer experiences.

With our own propitiatory P2P technology and then it has a rich media experiences voice, video, messaging, file sharing. We have all the data secure and sliced up over the community own nodes. Very secure. And guess what? It cant be blocked by firewalls. A bit of our timeline and roadmap, we have already launched our test version of our beta App, and wild-spread version will be available in late July.

So from there we are able to deliver our test-net. Our test-net will be available around September or October. And from there we will be able to get our Main-net ready around Q1 next year. And you gonna have all the true data secure. So it’s really gonna to be the revolution in communication.

译:非常感谢Alan 和 Gloria。让我来回答一下这个非常棒的问题。就像大家知道的,区块链是世界的未来,根据德勤的报告,在2027年,全球将有超过10%的GDP将在区块链上。所以区块链是未来去中心化的发展趋势。

问题是,如果你对于现有的app或者通讯方式进行观察,没有一个是为去中心化的世界所打造的。事实上,这些都是中心化的,你没办法拥有你的数据。

在这个拥有加密货币和安全数据存储的新型去中心化世界中数十亿美元面临风险的重要时刻,(我们)需要更好的解决方案。我们观察了整个通讯市场,反复思考,如何才能把这一切做的更好。在这重要的时间,有上亿的资金在这个去中心化的世界在虚拟货币上,我们的数据必须得到有效的保护。所以我们创建了Skrumble Network这个项目。Skrumble Network是第一个真正意义上的去中心化的通讯生态系统。

很靠谱,它意味着我们需要3个核心组成部分来进行我们的项目。

Skrumble Network 的第一个重要组成是全球首个以通讯为中心的区块链。我们相信,区块链的下一个重点是一个垂直的区块链,无论是我们在讨论通讯或者是游戏,区块链应该是可以适应不同的用户需求。

比如说我现在给你在以太上转账几百万,在以太坊上可能需要几十秒到一分钟的时间,这感觉很棒,因为你可以等待。但是通讯不是这样,如果我想要用微信和你聊天,我们最好能在10秒内连接上。

这样的使用案例是非常重要的,同时我们也必须保证它是非常安全和便于使用的。这是我们的第一个重要组成,所有的认证过程将在区块链上完成。我接下来会给大家介绍一些技术上的东西。

第二个重要组成是我们的Dapp,一个去中心化的应用。我们将打造区块链上的微信,我们将所有您现在使用的通讯聊天工具放在区块链上放在去中心化的世界里。我们将会把您的视频,声音,聊天,文件以及信息等放在带有多个钱包的加密货币支付应用里,这是一个迷你型的智能合约。

Skrumble Network是由加拿大的一家科技巨头公司Skrumble支持的!Skrumble拥有超过30项全球专利技术,其中有一项技术就给到了Skrumble基金会。因为数据储存在社区节点上,所以你在真正意义上拥有了自己的数据。

SKM项目的第三个重要组成部分是一个通讯层,程序员将会可以直接给到其他程序和App接入的机会。并建立社区。这样我们就把安全和简便的通讯接入到区块链的世界当中去了。

我们实现这一技术有三个重要组成部分。

第一,我们将认证和识别管理放在了区块链上。意思是说,比如你通常是怎样在APP上注册的?是的,你需要提供你的电话号码,邮件地址或者你的公民身份证。而在SKM,我们使用你的公钥与他人互动,比如你和三个人进行对话,它将生成一个只有你和他们能够有权限进入的密钥。第二,因为没有中央服务器,所以你拥有自己的数据。第三,SKM将使用其特有的p2p (点对点)技术打造富媒体流(包含信息,语言和视频等)通讯体验。再值得一提的是,这个技术非常安全。

说一点关于我们的时间节点和发展线路的信息,我们已经开发了app的测试版本,并将在七月底进行大规模公测。从这里开始,我们将会在今年9月完成我们的测试网络,在明年的第一季度完成主网。

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Alan:

Ok, I really agree with it. Actually men confused about data leaks, we use apps and actually this area leaks our details of ID with our secret main data or birth or even what type of people you like.

译:是的,我非常同意。事实上大家都在为数据泄漏担忧,实际上我们使用的APP也在泄漏我们的主要身份和出生信息,甚至包含你喜欢什么类型的人。

Eric:

That’s right Alan. You know people are starting to be very smart and educated about this topic. We heard from many people that the days of just having your information stored or leaked or anything like this that is not acceptable anymore. Because they don’t know what happened to their data and people really want their data to be secure.

译:是这样的Alan。你也知道关于这些人们的经验也越来越丰富了。很多人说他们再也不能接受自己的信息或被存储或或泄露这样的日子了。因为他们并不知道他们的信息最终会去到哪里, ⼈们也很恐慌,想要自己的数据安全。

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Alan:

Yes, I agree. I think we need time to make it more open or fit the fast moved rusher of Blockchain.

译:是的我同意。 我认为我们需要时间让它更加开放,或者适应快速发展的区块链。

Eric:

对。

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Alan:

The second question: as I heard that we are going to have our MVP version soon , is that right? So what are the key features of Skrumble, how Skrumble Network incorporating real time communication into its blockchain?

译:第二个问题是,据我所知,SKM即将上线MVP 版本,是这样吗?因此,Skrumble的主要特色是什么,它又是如何将实时通信纳入其区块链中的?

Eric:

That’s a great question Alan. So basically Skrumble Network and Dapp, for example, will enable realtime communication with anyone around the world. It can’t be blocked and you can do anything you want, similar to WeChat. However, you will also be able to do for voice, video, messaging, file sharing and in-app cryptocurrency payments. So we can do exactly this kind of broadcast without any limits on the amount of people in the group. We can have 15,000 people in the group. You can have realtime voice, video and broadcast and ready to go. People can literally sent cryptocurrency “HONG BAO” with different cryptocurrencies, thats just one example.

(直播现场刷屏的消息)

We can name it as global Wechat. Because global Wechat means everyone is truly connected and it’s really designed for the new digital blockchain world.

译:简单来说,Skrumble Network(举例 Dapp)不仅仅可以实现全球内即时通讯,体验类似于微信。同时你还可以实现语音,视频和文件传输,同时还有加密货币支付钱包。我们还可以进行这样的采访,不受社群人数限制。比如说可以有5,000人在这个采访里,你可以在群里准备直播,直接发不同币种的红包等等。

我们可以定义它是“全球微信”。因为全球微信意味着所有人都是被联系在一起的,同时它也是为新的区块链世界量身打造的技术。

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Alan:

So the 3rd question is about just give a short about the background of Skrumble and also the team , and how we going to match those strong resources into the Skrumble blockchain version in the future. That’s really good for the SKM to the月球.

译:第三个问题:能简单讲讲Skrumble的背景和团队吗,以及未来我们如何将这些强大的资源匹配到Skrumble区块链版本中?这对于SKM登陆月球是非常棒的。

Eric:

Thats a great question Alan! Skrumble is a company as you said has been around since 2014. It is co-founded by myself and David. We have a very strong team over 40 different people. We have 27 developers and tech experts. We also have 30 global pattens. We are developing 14 new ones for the blockchain. We also have extensive blockchain expertise on the team. We really have the ability to really deliver this. A lot of projects raise money first and hopefully hire a team and figure it out later. We already have the team and we are executing now with fast pace. The other thing that make us different, we are already in market, we already have success, and we already have many clients in the fortune 500, such as Hitachi.

译:Skrumble是由我和我父亲David在2014年创办的科技公司。我们拥有一个超过40人的强大团队,这其中包含27名优秀的科技开发人员。我们有30项全球专利,同时我们在研发14项区块链全球专利。我们拥有各方面的人才能够保证项目的完成。许多项目都是先筹钱再找团队,而我们已经拥有一个成熟的团队并正在快速发展中,另一个使我们与众不同的方面是我们已经在市场上取得了成功,并和许多财富500强公司建立了合作关系,比如日立。这使我们和其他公司显得不同,并且给SKM提供了强大的后备支持。

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Alan:

Yeah, that’s the great point that we do the investment. We get deep passion about the team, so great!

译:是的,这就是我们投资的重要的原因,我们感受到了团队的激情,很棒!

Eric:

When people come to our office in Canada, they see all our technology and team, they really like the amount of expertise we have. They want to get involved. That's how you are able to get some of the top advisors in the world. Like Anthony DiIorio, who’s co-founder of Etheruem, Jeff Pulver who started Vonage, Jiunus Tu , the CTO of Aion, and professor of University of Toronto who is the head of Blockchain.

译:朋友来到我们位于加拿大的办公室时,他们看到了我们的技术和团队,并且对我们所拥有的技术人员数量非常感兴趣,他们也想融入进来。这就是我们能够得到世界顶级顾问的方式。比如以太坊的联合创始人Anthony DiIorio,Vonage的创始人Jeff Pulver,Aion的CTO Jiunus Tu,以及多伦多大学的商学院教授DR. Elkamhi。

(Anthony DiIorio)

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Alan:

OK thats great , I have strong confidence about its future. Well, as you can see now we are having a live on WeChat cross almost 50 groups with 15,000 people online , which we call china-style. Actually I found that it also an type of consensus, how do you think about Skrumble Network to establish consensus technically ?

译:太棒了!我对Skrumble的未来更有信心了。您也知道,我们正在微信上实况直播加转播近50个群,15000人在线,这就是我们所说的中国风。我发现它也是一种共识机制,您如何看待Skrumble在技术上达成共识?

Eric:

That’s a good question. For more details, please check out our white paper. Very simply, we use our own D-PBFT consensus algorithm. What that means? We are able to reach consensus in a very fast rate. It doesn't matter the amount of data, it’s more about the speed at which we reach it. The reason why we use this is because, as I mentioned to you before if I want to send you something on Ethereum, it’s ok to wait 1-2 mins. But like what we are doing right now on WeChat it suppose to connect very fast. So we have our own hyper solution. We have the ID management and secret key generation on the blockchain. All the communication is done in a hybrid way with the data stored across multiple community nodes. What we are doing right now to 50,000 people around world with full voice, video, messaging and the ability to send cryptocurrency “HONG BAO”, it cant be blocked by any country and truly it’s a communication revolution.

译:关于共识技术,这是个很好的问题。更多信息可以在我们的白皮书中找到。很简单,我们使用的是D-PBFT共识技术。那就是我们可以快速完成共识,它跟数据量的多少没有关系,我们完成共识的速度才是最为重要的。我们使用这项技术的原因是因为,就像我之前提到的那样,如果我想在以太坊上像你发送东西,那么等待一两分钟是没有问题的,但如果我们想要在微信上快速完成通话,它必须是能马上连接上的。因此,我们使用了特有的超解决方案,在区块链上拥有ID管理和密钥生成功能。所有通信都是以混合方式完成的,数据存储在多个社区节点中。 我们现在正在向全球50,000人提供全面的语音,视频,短信和发送加密货币“红包”的服务,这真的是一场通信革命。

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Alan:

Ok, sounds exciting! Actually I and Eric and his wife got really good relationships and know each other for many years, its really honor to see the project running so fast and have it’s bright future. As I consider blockchain technology is most honors in the world , it must be the next generation of internet, and is likely to create trillion dollars of economic value globally over the next decades. In my opinion, the blockchain technology will be used in many industries including financial services, energy, supply chain, insurance, real estate, legal services and many others, its really lucky for us to jump in. I started to know about the blockchain since 2013 and it’s very encourage to jump in this new world and new industry. Just like Eric, me myself, the BlockVC, CoinMeet and also Skrumble and other lots of Dapps, we are trying to involve and put our energy into this blockchain industry. We wanna to make our power to relate to people and to make it a big and better future. So I believe that we all will have a free confidence and a remarkable future.

Ok, so the talk show is about 1 hour, we got the last question for Eric, your wish for the future of SKM and yourself, just talk about it.

译:棒极了。我和Eric夫妇是很好的朋友,真的非常荣幸能看到这样有发展前景的项目发展如此迅速。如我所认为的那样,区块链是全世界最具荣耀的技术,它必定是下一代互联网,并有可能在未来十年在全球范围内创造数万亿美元的经济价值。我认为,未来区块链技术将会被应用到许多行业,包括金融服务,能源,供应链,保险,房地产,法律服务和其他许多行业,我们真的很幸运能够进入到这个行业。我是2013年开始接触到区块链的,能够进入到这个新的世界和产业中是非常激励人的。就像Eric一样,我,BlockVC,CoinMeet以及Skrumble还有其他许多的应用,我们正在试图把我们的能量融入到这个区块链产业中去。我们想要使我们的力量链接到更多的人去创造一个美好的宏大未来。因此,我相信我们会拥有自信和纪念意义的未来。

最后一个问题,您对您自己和SKM的未来都有哪些愿景呢?

Eric:

Sure, the wish for Skrumble for the future is to actually change the world of communication. We went on a 15 city world tour as part of launching the Skrumble Network Project. We had a chance to speak around 30 events and meet a lot of amazing people. We went to several cities in China and talk to a lot of people. The chance is now. The time is now. As you said, there is so many new verticals and industries that going to be affected by the blockchain technology. However, every single one needs communication, no matter what industries you are in. Thats why the communication industries is 5 trillion dollars. Say for the financial industry, you can’t just say “hey, I am going to send you some ETH, and here you go, what’s your wallet address? ” . You have to talk. You have to negotiate. You have to discuss things and context is everything. Communication is global. It needs to be secure and it’s the true future of blockchain. That’s how we gonna change the world with Skrumble Network together.

谢谢大家!辛苦了!

译:我们进行了全球15个城市的路演,在大大小小30个活动上有机会进行演讲。我们也访问了许多国内的城市和很多业内的大佬。我们也去了中国的许多城市,和很多人交流过。正如你说的那样,现在就是最好的时机去发展,接下来各个领域都会依仗区块链,而大家都需要通讯技术,无论您是在哪个行业。对于金融领域来说,你不能直接说“嗨,我给你一些以太坊,你的钱包地址是什么”,你需要互相沟通。所以我们认为通讯和沟通是必须的。它需要确保安全,这也将是区块链发展的未来。以上就是我们想和Skrumble Network一起改变世界的想法。

谢谢大家!辛苦了!

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Alan:

Yes, I think all the involver in the blockchain area just like us, we all just make our own consensus to be more better, more open and more faster and more fit the digital society. And today so great for inviting Eric, the co-founder of Skrumble Network to the MingTalks. And next we are going to invite a lot of people like Eric, leading the global blockchain industry, and we are going to discuss how to make the future better, about the economy, about the industry details.

And we are trying to reach everyone to notice about the blockchain technology itself and to involve the energy into the blockchain technology to make it improved. One day, I believe that as a communication, we are going to make everyone to use, to fit, to handle the blockchain world.

译:是的,我认为所有参与区块链的人,就像我们一样,致力于使我们的共识机制更加开放,更加适应这个快速发展的数字社会。今天很荣幸能够邀请到Skrumble Network的联合创始人Eric来到我们的“明说块问”。接下来,我们将邀请更多像Eric这样在区块链行业的领军人物,大家一起探讨经济,探讨行业知识,探讨如何让未来更加美好。

现在我们也在努力普及区块链技术给所有人,给区块链注入更多能量让它更加完善。相信有一天,作为一个通讯工具,我们能让更多的人去使用,去适应和掌握区块链的世界。

Eric:

It’s really been an amazing pleasure. Thank you so much for having Skrumble Network in your amazing chat with so many people and I wanna to say thank you to the best community in the world, the Skrumble Network Community. We really couldn’t be where at without them. We already have over 80,000 people across telegram, WeChat, and any other channels. In addition we also really like to thank BlockVC, who’s truly becoming one of top global leaders in the blockchain and true 专家, true experts.

译:非常感谢大家能有机会来在这里,同时也非常感谢能和这么多人一起讨论Skrumble Network。同时也非常感谢我们最棒的Skrumble Network社群。没有他们就没有现在的我们。现在我们在电报,微信和其他渠道中已经拥有超过80万名成员。同时也想感谢BlockVC,他们是这个领域内真正的顶级专家。

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Alan:

Ok, thank you Eric, thank you Skrumble, Next time we are going to invite another great partners in blockchain, so we finish today and we can also wait for the translator for it’s translation. And thank you for both translators.

译:好的,感谢Eric,感谢Skrumble。下一期我们将邀请区块链领域内另一位伙伴来做客,今天我们的访谈到此结束啦,大家可以等待一下我们的翻译稍后提供的翻译内容。同时也感谢两位翻译的工作。

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